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this also. definitely put scrutiny on a system that wasn't working for her as evidenced by the new ruling. as a film maker erin lee carr. >> we're covering developments on capitol hill as democrats are trying to pass biden's economic agenda. in the january 6th committee issued 11 new subpoenas that seeking documents in depositions for people involved in planning and organizing events and rallies leading up to the insurrection. we begin "the reidout" tonight with republican extremism. the party long since surrendered any semblance of a soul it might have had to the influence of the anti democratic spending former
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guy. the carcass of the once grand old party is zombied into a force. the fiscal responsibility is recklessly gambling with the entire united states economy. senate republicans chief ghoul mitch mcconnell continued to wake up and choose chaos blocking efforts to raise the federal debt ceiling. bringing the u.s. a step closer to fiscal catastrophe because what's more extreme than lighting a match and gleefully watching your own house burn to own the libs? well, extremism is the name of the game for the party of trump. their content to cover up the atrocity of the january 6th insurrection and in states across the country, they're showcasing the insanity they'd inflict on the entire country if they can just get the chance. texas where republican governor greg abbott is doing the orange man's bidding looking into last year's election for something that doesn't exist while
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throwing the doors of texas businesses and schools open to covid. the state's equally attorney general ken paxton is going all in defending the state's law effectively banning abortion even in cases of rape and insist. did i mention ken paxton is under indictment for securities fraud? he is. anyway, the republicans in the state legislature fresh off passing voter suppression are craving redistricting jerry bandering congressional districts to reduce the effect of population growth which came entirely from black and hispanic texans to instead boost the political representation of the white voters who keep republicans in power. of course, open racism from texas republicans is sadly no surprise since the lone star state's lieutenant governor, former right wing talk show host dan patrick lied and blamed democrats and black texans for the state's surge in covid. but today, there is a challenge to all that tom foolery in
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texas. matthew dowd announced he's running against patrick as the democrat and matthew dowd joins me with michael steele, former chairman and rnc of the "michael steele podcast." before we get to your run in texas that lit up twitter this morning, i want to talk about the fact we have these new subpoenas that. we're getting closer and closer to finding out the logistics how the insurrection went down. in your mind, what is the significance of this investigation that we're seeing conducted by this special committee? >> well, it shows, i think it shows clearly, which we all knew that this wasn't a spontaneous event. there was causation involved and they conspired to do this and constructed this. it was a planned event that was facilitated by elected officials, which i actually think that's where we're finally
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are getting to in the course of this, that this was not just 5,000 people or 2,000 that just showed up because they wanted to do something and just spontaneously went to the capitol. that's, i think, the most despicable part of this is that elected officials and we're probably going to learn a lot of people knew this was being organized before it happened and knew what would happen and then it happened. as we talked before, joy, to me, ultimately, there is only two ways to hold republicans accountable. one is at the ballot box that we have to do and the other is in the courtroom. until we hold them accountable in the courtroom, this is going to keep going on and on and only get worse. >> yeah, you know, michael, i look through the names on this list, this is the press release that we just got. this happened about 30 minutes before the start of the show. the most notable names on it or at least the people we heard of before, katrina pearson who has sort of scurried around republican politics in recent
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years, she worked for donald trump and of course, amy cramer who is the founder and chair of women for america first, what do you expect to happen in terms of whether or not republicans are going to start to respect the idea of a subpoena as these start to go out? >> well, first off, let me say congratulations to my man matt. i'm excited for you as a former party chair. >> thank you. >> so the reality, i think, is more to the fact that you're going to see at least in the first iteration of this, joy, folks just trying to play the trump angle, be aggressive against the subpoena, you know, threaten to make a lot of noise but that then makes a real important political point for democrats. okay. you're doing a lot of issuing. you're putting out a lot of paper. you better be calling u.s. marshals and say keep the engine
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running because you're making a few pickups. that part of this is the most -- it's not so much what republicans do or don't do in the subpoenas that. it's how democrats enforce the authority behind the subpoenas that that they have issued if they don't, you will see a trumpfied process that the american people will lose faith in and the credibility of the january 6th commission, which is the ultimate end game here for a lot of republicans who don't want to talk about january 6th begins to dissipate and it becomes a non-issue and nothing the commission does after that will matter. >> yeah, it's a really good point. let's talk texas real quick, matthew. you were an advisor to george w. bush before you publicly broke with the former president so you've been a republican. you are now running in the democratic primary and you're running for lieutenant governor. let me play the current lieutenant governor. this is dan patrick embracing a
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thing we've seen on the fox news white power hour, the tucker show called the great replacement theory. take a listen. >> the revolution has begun a silent revolution by the democrat party and joe biden to take over this country. you're talking about millions and millions and millions of new voters and they will thank the democrats and biden for bringing them here. who do you think they're going to vote for? so this is trying to take over our country without firing a shot. we need every state, every red state, because the blue ones don't do it to send and invoke article 4, section 4 of the constitution to tell the president that we are being invaded. >> you know, matthew, white replacement theory used to be considered open racism you can't say out loud. now it's standard stuff you can say on fox news and the seat of government in texas and the only reason we republicans are doing that is they think it will
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appeal to white voters. how do you compete in a state where people like that routinely get elected? >> well, thanks for having me and it's thank you, michael for your kind words. i mean, i think first of all, if telling the truth, right, telling the truth, which is fundamentally missing in texas leadership for five years, ten years or however long it's been. they don't tell the truth. dan patrick, the lieutenant governor is one of the worst at deception and lies in this. i think for your viewers who always know about greg abbott, the governor, what they don't understand is in texas, the lieutenant governor of texas is the most powerful position in texas. the lieutenant governor in texas controls the legislature so while we have voting rights restrictions is lieutenant governor. why we ended roe versus wade was lieutenant governor. why he tried to push a bathroom bill to keep transgender people from using bathrooms is this texas lieutenant governor. why we had a permitless carry gun bill is because of this lieutenant governor. my view is the majority of
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texans do not agree with any of this and they're betting, greg abbott and dan patrick are betting on the idea they can appeal to a 5% of the primary with the primary and general election and i'll talk to texans and say if you want somebody that has texas values and believes in telling the truth who believes in public service, who believes in servant leadership and common decency, which these folks don't, let's have that. if you expect it in your children or brothers and sisters or at your church, then expect it in your leaders at the austin capital. i'll spend the next 40 five days telling the truth about dan patrick. he won't like it but i'll tell the truth. >> do you expect the former president to endorse you? do you think he would if you make it into the general? >> the former president has -- the former president made it a pattern to stay out of all
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politics. my guess is he'll stay out. i have to go through fight for democrats, fight for independence and hopefully there is enough enlightened disenchanted republicans that don't like what is going on, we'll win. my bet is people don't want to hear the truth and i'll tell the truth. >> michael steele, you're the former head of the republican party. the party as it exists now boasts people like matt gaetz who is accused of sex trafficking a child, ken paxton under investigation as we mentioned before by the texas state bar for filing the election lawsuit and also for abuse of his office. christi gnome who allegedly strong armed a state official into giving her daughter a real estate license deal and the south carolina a.g. who is investigating gnome killed a man while driving and pleaded guilty and tried to deny he did it even though his glasses were found in his car. ronny jackson. we can go on and on and on. he was found to be drunk while
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on the job caring for the president of the united states and corey lewandowski, lauren bobert who is not bright and smart but used campaign funds to pay her rent and shooters in a restaurant. these people can still get elected, what does that say about the base in parties like texas and do you think it's viable for someone like matthew who is a descent and good man to win in that kind of environment? >> well, i think -- sure. if that's one of the most important points was the last point you just made. you know, how you step and push back against that narrative. these folks have been able to ride rough shot. there is no accountability. you heard matthew layout, look, i'll hold this guy accountable. it's not about his party label so much anymore. i mean, you know, the party has been concerned just as the democrats were in the '80s and '90s to watch democrats leave
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the democratic party to come into the republican party. republicans now face the same truth on the other side. and so you can one off and call everyone a rhino but at the end of the day, you'll start to lose elections. and i think the real -- i've been saying this for ten years now, joy, that tip of the spear is where matthew is gone ever -- planning to run for lieutenant governor. it's in fact the state of texas. if the party isn't paying attention to this, everybody knows what happens to the wigs, right? yeah. no, they don't. they disappeared. like who are the wigs? that's the same reality for republicans for a lot of voters out there if you cannot speak to my core values beyond trying to grift for me, scare me about people who aren't showing up on my doorstep from some border far, far away, making noise about deconstructing administrative state and undermining the constitution, i don't want to hear from you and that gives an opportunity and
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opening for candidates like matthew to come out and have a different conversation with those very same voters, the hard core joy, they're the hard core. they'll be where they're going to be but the rest of the electret is up for play and good to see matthew wanting to challenge the system and push back. love to see him do it as republican many but appreciate he's doing it as democrat. >> people that have a critique of our system. we talk a lot about our fears for our republic. i like to see people willing to step up and put skin in the game and do it. last question, what is your plan to appeal to voters of color under such threat and get around the rules that will make it so hard for them to vote? >> well, my plan is every single decision that gets made in a room in austin, they're left out of the equation. every single room now that those decisions are made, whether lieutenant governor, they're left out of the equation. matter of fact, not only left out of the equation but put as
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voting rights. if i'm lieutenant governor, the first thing i'll do is rollback the voting rights restrictions and comes roe versus wade and comes rollback the other things they've done. the first thing they have to do is they have to be in the room where the decisions are made and today, they're not. >> very quickly before we go, michael steele, do you have any announcements you would like to make regarding potentially running for office to add to this segment? tick, tick, tick. >> i do not have anything to add to this segment although i had a conversation about that today so we'll see. >> you haven't had it with me so you need to come back on and have it with me on this show with all our friends. >> i know how that plays, girl. i'm not stupid. >> thank you very much. matthew dowd, best of luck. up next on "the reidout" the biden agenda on the brink. there are a lot of moving parts as democrats fight to get his
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signature legislation through congress and "the reidout" exclusive, three congresswomen tell their very personal abortion stories to nbc's ally bar tally. >> my mother's friend said look, i know a very good doctor but he's in a back ally clinic in mexico and i'll never forget that night. i was terrified. i didn't know what was taking place, and in fact, you know, i survived. also, why so many followers believe the gospel of trump and anti vax and qanon and one year ago today, tonight's absolute worst set the wheels in motion for the over throw of the u.s. government on january 6th. "the reidout" continues after this. reidout" continues after this
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forward or not? >> our sense is she does. >> she does. okay. and she wants to do it this year? >> that's our sense. >> here is the thing. politico is reporting something different. she's not on board with the $3.5 trillion social spending plan and hesitant to engage on specifics until the bipartisan infrastructure package passes the house. as you can see, sinema is being cagey and progressives in the house are getting sick and tired of kyrsten sinema's diva act. it has been described as insane. he got backup from nancy pelosi on reconciliation, sinema's ally told reporters, no dice. >> we have the most important piece of legislation in the last
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30 years, which is the bipartisan bill. we have so much in so many ways. why don't you take that and move on and negotiate -- >> progressives don't trust you, sir. they don't trust you'll be with them on the reconciliation bill. >> i negotiate in good faith and trust them to negotiate in good faith. >> a quick refresher. the people that negotiates the infrastructure bill a month ago seem to have things in common. it should come as no surprise the majority of the far more diverse progressive caucus lack trust and still plan on blocking the infrastructure bill. joining me now is congressman ro khanna. thank you for being here. i want you to listen to kyrsten sinema that seems like she's competing with joe mansion to see who will be the most obstructionists. here he is talking about the frustrations of your caucus.
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>> what do you say that progressives are frustrated that they don't know where you are? >> i'm in the senate. right here. >> the progressives. there are progressives within the senate that are frustrated that they don't know where you are, either. >> i'm literally right here at the elevator. >> i don't know if that was supposed to be a joke congressman. kyrsten sinema was there from 2013 to 2019. you've been there since 2017. do people consider her at this point to be an honest negotiator or just doing that smirking comedian thing she thinks she knows she's doing and not acting in good faith? >> joy, congratulations on getting her on tape. i've never seen her do an interview. it's like an oricle. she never comes on television. >> can i just say -- i will have to not take credit for that personally because you're right.
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we've invited her to be on the show repeatedly and she's repeatedly said no but go on. >> so i guess the question is what does she want? i mean, we have had so many people have over tours to her and the few who have gotten a response says she doesn't want to discuss anything until the bipartisan bill passes. she never reached out to us when she was quote unquote coming up with this consensus agreement. the progressives have comp -- compromised so much saying it doesn't have to pass the senate first. we're willing to have an agreement in principle and willing to negotiate and come down and front load the benefits and reduce years. how can we negotiate and compromise when the other person isn't even willing to have a starting offer, not just us but not to the president and that's what is so frustrating to so many people. >> for a lot of people observing this, it feels like kyrsten sinema and joe mansion just want to bank the $1.2 trillion bill
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they negotiated with an all white conservative set of friends. they want that bill to pass and afterwards, think have no problem walking away from the $3.5 trillion bill. here is joe mansion essentially saying just take the bill we did and call it a win. take a listen. oh, hold on. i will read it to you. let me find it. he says here spending trillions of dollars -- oh, no, sorry. okay. spending trillions of dollars on new and expanded government programs when we can't pay for the essential programs is the definition of insanity. i made it clear we need to means test any social programs so that we're helping those in need the most, not spend for the sake of spending and one more, this is element two for my producers. today he said he never heard of the linking between the two bills, he never heard of it. on june 29th. he said i'm not going to vote for the other one because you haven't guaranteed the vote for everything. you've never done legislation
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that way. he says they're not linked. back on june 24th, not long before that he said the link strategies is the only strategy we have. reconciliation is inevitable. do you have any idea where joe mansion stands and whether there is a real genuine commitment they will ever vote on the reconciliation bill? >> joy, i think senator mansion will come along if kyrsten sinema isn't out there obstructing. he's in a state that trump carried by 30%. on the substance, i disagree. if you look at the pressure, if you have a bill where you raise taxes and it's paid for, it does not have an inflation impact and this is over ten years of productive investment. the economics suggest it won't have an inflation impact. i believe he'll get on board. the question is why is there
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this artificial deadline of thursday? senator mansion says we want to negotiate in good faith. fine, let's continue to negotiate over a few weeks. why did senator sinema create this deadline if we don't do something thursday i'll walk? who legislates like that? she's a first term senator. as a first term member of the congress, a third term member of congress, if i said if i'm not going to get my way, i'll walk, the speaker would laugh at me understandably. politics is a team sport. at the end of the day, we have to act on behalf of the american public and understand we have a president, president biden. we have a speaker of the house and senate majority leader. they've been there for many years. they have experience. we can disagree but have some respect and have some sense that there is a coach and someone is in charge of the team. >> let's go back and i'm going to ask you a similar question to the first one i asked you. jen psaki said the sense the white house has is that kyrsten
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sinema wants reconciliation to pass. do you have that sense? >> if she's acting in her own political interest. nate silver had a great post today saying that this is irrational from a political actor's perspective. she's basically inviting a primary challenge and she won't win on the republican side because the republican base will never accept her vote. i don't understand how she could sink the democratic agenda.rati. we may have a sense. can you imagine? the president of the united states. >> do you -- >> yeah? >> do you imagine that maybe the alternate explanation is she's doing what her donors want because maybe she doesn't care about running for reelection? perhaps her relationship with the financial donors is what she wants? >> i don't want to speculate on her integrity or motives but i'll say this. just optics-wise, why would you
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have those fundraisers in the midst of this discussion? it shows at the very least it shows an indifference for the suspicion and skepticism out there in the american public. joy, think about this. if there is a progressive woman of color who is holding up the entire president and democratic party's agenda, imagine the outrage that they would face and it is just remarkable to me that we have let this situation get to this point where a single first term senator from a state that the president carried her own colleague mark kelly is on board is holding up the democratic agenda and benefits for the working class and middle class child care, expansion of medical care so people that are dentists or get basic hearing aids. it's unconscionable. >> we will continue to ask senator sinema to come on the show and explain that to our audience and our colleagues.
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it might be more respectful for her to answer the questions. we shall see. congressman row conthat, appreciate you being here this evening. coming up, the political and deeply personal will merge for three congresswoman tomorrow when they share their own stories of abortion at a house hearing on reproductive rights. nbc spoke with these women. that exclusive interview is next. women that exclusive interview is next ♪ i'm a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers ♪ ♪ and my clothes smell so much fresher than before ♪ ♪ i'm a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers ♪
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will testify on their abortions at a house hearing of reproductive rights. nbc news ally -- ali vitali
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spoke with those women about their abortions. >> when i found out that i was pregnant, it was very difficult because i still didn't understand what was happening. i didn't even realize how, like, what to do. i just knew i wasn't ready for a child. >> i just realized that there was no way i could have another baby at that time, and that i could not go through what i had gone through. i had gone through postpartum depression after jack's birth. i, you know, even contemplated suicide at one time, and i knew i was not ready to go through that again. >> my mother's friend said look, i know a very good doctor but he's in a back ally clinic in mexico. i was terrified. i didn't know what was taking place, and in fact, you know, i survived it and why it's so important now for me to tell the story is i don't want any woman to ever have to go through that.
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i know what that back ally looked like. i know what that dark light looked like. >> i see it right now. you know, like i say, i was one of the fortunate ones. >> with me now is ali vitali. you can see the emotion on the faces of those members. it's barbara lee, corey bush, jie ya paul, very emotional stories. >> it will be heard on the hearing focused on reproductive rights but i want to take you inside the room. there was a lot of apprehension from the lawmakers. some of these women never told the stories before and shared them with us for the first time on camera and both the stories and the circumstances of what led these women to make these decisions were different. the stories spanned three generations from women who only knew a world post roe versus
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wade to a woman that experienced firsthand how dangerous abortions were. during the interview, i could see these congresswomen internalizing each other's stories. when we finished, there was a moment they all hugged and embraced filled with a sense of relief, of solidarity they were sharing difficult stories but they weren't sharing them alone. tomorrow, that's what they'll do as part of the official congressional record, but more than just that testimony, joy, you and i know how deeply partisan and deeply entrenched this policy debate is between republicans and democrats. other female lawmakers across the country shared similar personal stories in hopes of changing the policy conversation and frankly, it hasn't worked. congresswoman corey bush when i asked if she thought these personal stories could change minds, she remained resolute.
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>> my mind changed being so deep in my church. it wasn't until later on years later that i started to realize like wait a minute. it should not be a partisan thing. it should be about humanity, humanity and then what is best because what may be good for me may not be good for the other person but the freedom to make the decision has to be there. >> and joy, an important thread to think about ahead of the hearings tomorrow is these women are appearing as experts when that is really the foundation of the democratic argument around reproductive rights, women should be legally free to make their own reproductive decisions as experts about their own bodies. >> yeah. i think about these hearings, the thing i think a lot of women dread is watching these women testify and potentially be shamed by members of the other party who are not having a genuine debate about women's rights and women's liberties.
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they're having a debate about performing for donald trump in the most aggressive way they can. let me play ted cruz today doing that performance. >> what this is really about is demonizing question and life. when it is demoniing texas, i suppose i understand why senate democrats want to do so. in illinois in the year 2020 of what states people are moving out of. the number one state is new jersey. the number two state is new york. the number three state is illinois. >> and of course, talking about fleeing states would probably not be his best move but when you spoke with these three congresswomen, are they emotionally prepared to be potentially lectured, maybe even bullied by the likes of people like ted cruz? >> we broach this from the
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perspective of people on this committee having spoken graphically about abortion and women that choose to have them but spoke about this from the security angle because these women in some cases have shared their stories before. they've faced both the on slot of people online and in other forums attacking them from making this choice but at the same time, all of them told me that for as many of those comments and threats that they got, they also heard from people who may live in republican districts who had seen parts of their own personal stories reflected in these lawmakers' stories. that was really the crux of the interview. they are prepared for the threats in many cases they're receiving them for other policy stances they've taken. their ready on that front. at the same time, they say the benefit of sharing their stories, no matter how difficult it is for them to do that and you can see them in that video struggling with retelling these traumatizing in some cases stories for them.
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they say the upside is worth it because there could be women and people that could be pregnant out there that could see themselves in them and feel reflected in some of the most powerful people in american government. >> very powerful and very brave and yes, just being a woman of color in public, in american public life for them is probably already difficult. congress members are getting threats all the time. ally bar tally, thank you for sharing. well done. coming up, religion expert robert p. jones sounds the alarm on the districtive path of the white evangelical right. what happens when extremism comes to church? that's next. stay with us. comes to church? that's next. stay with us at new chapter, its' innovation, organic ingredients, and fermentation. fermentation? yes. formulated to help you body really truly absorb the natural goodness. new chapter. wellness, well done. ♪ lights out, follow the noise. ♪ ♪ baby, keep on dancing like you ain't got a choice. ♪ ♪ so come one (come on), come on (come on), come on. ♪
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over the past few decades, the white evangelical movement has gone from a quarter of the population to just 14%. while their numbers are on the decline, their involvement in fringe movements is on the rise. among religious groups, white evangelicals are the most likely
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to refuse covid-19 vaccines. one in four jumped on the qanon conspiracy band wagon and can't forget they make up the largest religious group to support trump. robert jones, the ceo of the pub ligs religious institute describes the bull work and breaks down what he says is one of the vexing puzzles in our politics, how a reportedly sober christian world view is a volatile cocktail of fealty to donald trump, while rants about vaccines, faith in qanon conspiracies and hysteria over critical race theory. with me now is robert p. jones, the author of "white too long" the supremacy in christianity. some of your polling and you're one of the best pollsters out there with the biggest samples. one in three white evangelicals believe because things are so off track, true american patriots may have to resort to
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violence to save our country. you noted to our producers, prri didn't think about asking that question prior to trump. what changed? >> yeah, well, joy, it's a pleasure to be with you. so thank you for having me on tonight. but, you know, i think that's right. as pollster and social scientist been doing this for decades, there are polling questions that we have had to write in these last four years that i never dreamed as a social scientist we would have to write, things about whether people believe there is satin worshipping pedophiles running the government or a main stream religious group would be convinced a significant number of them would be convinced they should kill or physically assault their fellow citizens in order to bring about political outcomes. they will openly say that on a public opinion survey. we're truly in uncharted territory. >> you write in this brilliant "time" piece about your growing up as a white evangelical
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christian and it was all about personal mortality which crowded out having to care about other people. is it that? are people coming up in a religious construct that says all that matters is if i sin, i personally seek salvation and it's just about that and i don't have to really worry about my fellow man, the poor, the immigrant? >> yeah, you know, i describe it as kind of holding a light too close to your face where the background just reseeds from being visible. that's the effect of this kind of hyper focus on personal morality, personal sin that it really does acollude any sense of social justice and all these things, the murder of everetts. i didn't know the name. he lived -- my driveway was 1 miles from his driveway growing up and i went through my entire high school and college experience in mississippi never hearing his name, right?
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that tells you something about what's been hidden by this world view that was so focused on personal morality but absolutely, and i think by design, that's important to say. it was no accident. they constructed it this way because the only way that a world view, you know, that can be simultaneously so actively working against equal rights for black and brown americans at the same time can really exist. >> i grew up in a methodist church where care for the immigrant was like a central plank of our faith. you've polled this question, are immigrants invading our country and replacing our cultural and ethnic background? 68% of americans say no. 59% of white evangelicals say yes. they're the only group, religious group per pir polling with a majority that believes immigrants are invading our country. that's frightening. what's behind that?
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>> you know, it's a very old idea. we've been hearing a lot about it on fox and other place, replacement theory. again, as a scholar, as someone who studied american history, this comes right out of the i mean, this is old white supremacist language that, you know, we thought, again, you know that we had moved past but we're finding it circling back around again, and not just being hinted at but said very openly, right, this idea. and the only thing you have to do to interrogate that language is ask, well, who's the our who's being threatened here, and their clear answer is it's white anglo-saxon protestant christians being threatened here. >> there is this sense of self-victim hood, a bit of a whineyness to it. is this about a genuine loss of power. it does seem to me that white christians are largely in power throughout most industries,
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throughout most parts of our government, throughout society. it's not economic society. that was bs that the media fell for in 2016, so what is it that they're afraid of, is it merely the browning of the country, to send people into the arms of what used to be clan -- klan thinking? >> it's really this idea that america was define to be and intended to be divinely ordained to be a white christian country, and that is so deeply in the dna of many white christians, as the country is changing and shifting, we're seeing this psychic break. i think in many ways, if you look at the school board meetings with people just ranting about vaccines or critical race theory, i mean, this is so far from our, you know, marching with the christian flag alongside the confederate flag on our capitol. this is so far from the prince of peace, turn the other cheek,
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you know, jesus of the new testament that we really are seeing a kind of break, and that break, i think, is linked to the fact that we use a good sociology word here, the plausibility structures have collapsed, that world that used to be the dominant forces in america, those institutions have kind of collapsed and the theology now is, i think, in a desperate kind of free fall, and so this is what we're seeing is people that literally is a kind of psychic break, and a kind of desperate flailing around that we're seeing in public as people are trying to wrap their heads around this. >> and we saw it during the civil rights era, too. same group. thank you, robert p. jones, you're great. thank you very much. don't go anywhere, tonight's absolute worst. one of donald trump's true low points happened one year ago today, it was a moment that ushered in one of the most dangerous periods in political history. that is next. ous periods in poll history. thats inext tonight, i'll be eating a buffalo chicken panini with extra hot sauce.
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are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in kenosha, and portland. >> give me a name. >> proud boys. >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> wow, it was one year ago today that donald trump gave the proud boys his vote of confidence when asked to condemn them, as you can see, he did the exact opposite. stand back and stand by. in turn the far right extremist group not only accepted his endorsement but adapted his words as their slogan, and promptly incorporated into their logo. when he invited them to washington to stop the so called steal, they gladly obliged violently. npr reports today that the 12 months that followed trump's
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notorious statement have overall been a period of growth for the proud boys. it's an example of how trump's call to arms has heralded one of the most dangerous period in the history of politics. we have increasingly seen republicans cozy up to these right wing militias, the oath keepers, 3%ers, and qanon, following trump's lead, trying to make the fringe mainstream, and that's exactly true of the sedition caucus in congress who have been rallying behind the perpetrators of the attempted coup. according to the chief of capitol police we have never had the level of threats against members of congress that we are seeing today. and according to the fbi, there are now more than twice as many open investigations into domestic terrorism than international terrorism. in fact, the top counter terrorism official at the department of homeland security testified today that some current and former elected
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officials are amplifying propaganda that fuels violent extremism. at the same time, there seems to be a lack of accountability for those who have already acted on their extremist impulses. one january 6th defendant is on video threatening to murder nancy pelosi, wanted to shoot the speaker in the brain, yet she was charged with misdemeanors and pleaded guilty to only one. the judge questioned why she was not charged with threatening a government official which is a felony. felony charges would seem appropriate given the lynch mob that showed up that day. i should note that cases from january 6th are clogging up our legal system which may explain why some are getting off so easy or maybe there's just a reluctance for the criminal justice system to hold people accountable when those people are part of the republican base. sure wish we had a critical theory on race and justice to discuss that. according to pew research, the
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share of republicans who say it's important to prosecute the january 6th insurrectionists is steadily declining. all of this explanation why the right's embrace of domestic terrorists and their attempts to normalize violence as politics, which one might call fascism is the absolute worst, and that is tonight eat reidout, "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on "all in." >> some folks in our party have reneged on that agreement. that's where i think we have an issue here of trust. >> the biden agenda at a cross roads in congress as two democrats refuse to budge. tonight congresswoman pramila jayapal at the center of it all and the house on elizabeth warren and her colleagues holding everything up in the senate. and then breaking news from the january 6th committee. the new subpoenas are out. what we know about who they're targeting and why. and new proof the biden vaccine requirement is working as the pro-covid right finds a new

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